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01:10:23 PM Start
01:11:00 PM Overview: the Alaska Department of Corrections Inmate Safety Administrative Review
01:37:18 PM Adjourn
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PRISON COSTS AND REFORM: PERSPECTIVES FROM THE
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Invited Testimony:
Dean Williams, Who Has Been Appointed by
Governor Walker to Lead a Review of the
Department of Corrections Inmate Safety Practice
Testimony <Invitation Only>
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       ANCHORAGE, ALASKA                                                                                      
                        August 18, 2015                                                                                         
                           1:10 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lesil McGuire, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator John Coghill, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello                                                                                                            
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair, House Judiciary                                                                         
Representative Wes Keller                                                                                                       
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: THE ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS INMATE SAFETY                                                                    
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEAN WILLIAMS, Special Assistant to Governor Walker                                                                             
Alaska Department of Corrections Inmate Safety Review                                                                           
Office of the Governor                                                                                                          
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of an impending                                                                      
administrative review on the Alaska Department of Corrections                                                                   
regarding inmate safety.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:10:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  LESIL   MCGUIRE  called  the  Senate   Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:10  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order was Senator Wielechowski and Chair McGuire.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW:  THE ALASKA  DEPARTMENT OF  CORRECTIONS INMATE  SAFETY                                                               
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW                                                                                                           
  OVERVIEW: THE ALASKA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS INMATE SAFETY                                                              
                     ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
1:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE explained that the  Senate Judiciary Committee will                                                               
hear  an  overview  from  Dean  Williams,  Special  Assistant  to                                                               
Governor Walker, who  will begin an administrative  review on the                                                               
Alaska Department of Corrections (DOC).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She noted  that the succeeding Joint  Judiciary Committee meeting                                                               
will hear about  prison costs and reform. She  explained that the                                                               
Joint Judiciary  Committee meeting  will include  individuals who                                                               
will  provide their  perspective on  how the  justice system  has                                                               
been reformed  in other  states. She  added that  she appreciated                                                               
the Pew  Charitable Trusts  for their  partnering with  Alaska to                                                               
address prison costs and reform.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She welcomed Senator Johnny  Ellis, Representative Max Gruenberg,                                                               
and Representative  Wes Keller to  the meeting.  She acknowledged                                                               
the family members  of Davon Mosley and  welcomed retired Justice                                                               
Alex Bryner, Alaska Supreme Court.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She  noted  that the  Senate  Judiciary  Committee in  March  had                                                               
initiated  the  process of  trying  to  receive tapes  and  files                                                               
related to  the deaths that have  occurred in the DOC.  She noted                                                               
that the  committee has addressed  specific cases,  including the                                                               
2014 death  of Davon Mosely.  She revealed that the  governor had                                                               
asked to meet with her last  week and noted that Mr. Williams was                                                               
also in  attendance. She added  that she spoke with  DOC officers                                                               
as  well. She  summarized that  the governor  made it  very clear                                                               
that he cares very deeply about  the DOC deaths and noted that he                                                               
was approached  throughout his gubernatorial campaign  by many of                                                               
the corrections  officers as  well as the  families of  those who                                                               
have lost  loved ones  while serving time  in the  prison system.                                                               
She stated that the governor  was pleased to join the legislature                                                               
in the investigation to look into  the DOC deaths and what can be                                                               
done  to  prevent them  in  the  future.  She detailed  that  the                                                               
governor has  given his full  support and has asked  Mr. Williams                                                               
to be a special investigator on the DOC investigation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:13:11 PM                                                                                                                    
DEAN  WILLIAMS,   Special  Investigator,  Alaska   Department  of                                                               
Corrections Inmate  Safety Administrative  Review, Office  of the                                                               
Governor,  Juneau,  Alaska,  stated  that  the  Senate  Judiciary                                                               
Committee,  the  legislature, the  public  and  many others  have                                                               
expressed  deep concern  about the  operations of  DOC concerning                                                               
some of  the deaths  and some of  the unfortunate  incidents that                                                               
have occurred. He asserted that  the Governor's Office as well as                                                               
the governor are concerned as  well and are doing something about                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:13:39 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WILLIAMS explained that he  would detail how the decision was                                                               
made  for the  DOC review.  He related  that he  was involved  in                                                               
state government for 31 years and  came out of retirement to work                                                               
for the governor  as a special assistant. He  disclosed that when                                                               
the discussion about DOC occurred  a few weeks after starting, he                                                               
put his name forward to offer assistance.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  explained that  the  investigation is  the  result of  public                                                               
concerns  regarding recent  deaths and  the circumstances  around                                                               
certain deaths  in DOC.  He set  forth that  the governor  and he                                                               
believe  that public  trust  in an  agency  requires telling  the                                                               
truth. He asserted  that the Office of the  Governor is committed                                                               
to finding out what the truth is.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He specified  that the  investigation will  reveal what  is going                                                               
right, what  is not going  right, and what  recommendations might                                                               
be done  to fix things. He  remarked that the human  toll and the                                                               
financial  costs  are  significant   when  an  agency  is  having                                                               
trouble, but  asserted that the intent  is not to pick  on DOC or                                                               
any agency.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  said the  DOC review  is  really getting  a look  at the  big                                                               
picture by  looking at specific  incidents. He detailed  that the                                                               
review is being done by himself  as well as Joe Hanlon, a retired                                                               
FBI agent who  runs his own special investigation  shop. He noted                                                               
that Mr. Hanlon  was recommended by Mark Mew,  Anchorage Chief of                                                               
Police. He said  Chief Mew is a qualified person  who will assist                                                               
with the review as well.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He specified  that a  comprehensive report  will be  submitted to                                                               
the governor after a two to  three month review process. He noted                                                               
that the  governor will provide  the Judiciary Committee  with an                                                               
executive  summary that  may have  individual  names redacted  in                                                               
order to  protect people who  are coming forward and  telling the                                                               
truth. He  stated that  a final  report will  be provided  to the                                                               
public and the legislature.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  said he asked  that all  DOC employees talk  to him                                                               
confidentially;  in other  words, no  supervisory questioning  of                                                               
people that talk  to himself or Mr. Hanlon. He  added that little                                                               
or  no visitation  notices will  be provided  to any  of the  DOC                                                               
facilities that he  will visit. He asserted that he  did not want                                                               
DOC facilities  preparing or cleaning  things up. He  stated that                                                               
his intent  is to  see how  the DOC  facilities are  operating in                                                               
order to see what is going well and what is not going well.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:16:44 PM                                                                                                                    
He  said  inmate  deaths occurring  inside  DOC  facilities  will                                                               
clearly be  one of the areas  of focus. He added  that the review                                                               
will look at restraints, abuse,  neglect, suicides, and homicides                                                               
within  the  last two  years.  He  revealed that  specific  cases                                                               
beyond  two years  will also  be reviewed,  including the  Israel                                                               
Keyes case  due to its national  attention as well as  cases that                                                               
he is not at liberty to reveal.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He said the review will also address the following:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · Operational confidence issues.                                                                                             
   · Documentation and accurate reporting.                                                                                      
   · Appropriate review of a major incidence.                                                                                   
   · Appropriate personnel investigations.                                                                                      
   · Strategy towards improvement.                                                                                              
   · The utilization of national agencies that help corrections                                                                 
     departments.                                                                                                               
   · Staffing concerns.                                                                                                         
   · Employee morale.                                                                                                           
   · DOC's culture.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:18:01 PM                                                                                                                    
He asserted  that any review  is imperfect. He said  the review's                                                               
goal is to get  a snapshot and not a dissection  of what is going                                                               
on in  the department.  He avowed that  he approaches  the review                                                               
with  great humility  knowing that  he and  Mr. Hanlon  are human                                                               
beings; they  are going to do  their best to tell  the truth, but                                                               
know that something may be missed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He revealed that he has already  met with DOC employees and noted                                                               
their  dedication. He  said  DOC employees  are  good folks  that                                                               
really want to do  a good job and the state  is fortunate to have                                                               
a work force that has that value.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS pointed  out that  the review  is not  a blame-game                                                               
from  the  Governor's  Office  and certainly  not  from  him.  He                                                               
asserted that the review is  about finding out what happened, how                                                               
DOC arrived at the current point,  and really not being afraid to                                                               
tell the  truth. He  said he  has discussed  the issues  with his                                                               
staff.  He  avowed that  his  focus  is  not  to get  someone  in                                                               
trouble, but  to find out what  happened first. He noted  that if                                                               
something  should happen  regarding  personnel  issues; that  was                                                               
another level. He reiterated that the  intent of the review is to                                                               
figure  out what  happened first.  He  asserted that  he and  the                                                               
governor are committed to understanding  the problem first before                                                               
recommending a fix.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:19:45 PM                                                                                                                    
He pointed out  that the succeeding Joint  Judiciary meeting with                                                               
the  Pew  Charitable  Trusts  regarding   justice  reform  was  a                                                               
different  process, but  with a  very common  goal. He  set forth                                                               
that the  goal is to improve  the justice system as  well as help                                                               
improve  DOC.   He  affirmed  that   reform  work   that  reduces                                                               
incarceration and  recidivism is  good under  any sky,  but noted                                                               
that  developing some  margins when  trying to  make improvements                                                               
with an  agency by  providing some breathing  room was  even more                                                               
valuable  in  terms  of going  forward  with  recommendations  or                                                               
implementation.  He summarized  that  the  Pew Charitable  Trusts                                                               
effort and the  justice reform effort are  critical components in                                                               
the state's  future and will  certainly help the review  in terms                                                               
of DOC.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  announced that  he  and  Mr. Hanlon  welcome  phone calls  or                                                               
meetings  with the  legislature and  staff.  He said  he and  Mr.                                                               
Hanlon  are  open  to  any feedback  in  addition  to  addressing                                                               
specific incidences.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:21:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE welcomed Representative  Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair of                                                               
the House Judiciary Committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She  pointed  out that  the  Senate  Judiciary Committee  held  a                                                               
hearing in March that addressed  DOC inmate deaths. She specified                                                               
that the hearing was conversational  with a variety of folks. She                                                               
noted  that   corrections  officers  testified  to   things  they                                                               
witnessed and problems  they felt were occurring  with respect to                                                               
training  and  the prisoner  to  corrections  officer ratio.  She                                                               
added that  DOC Commissioner Taylor addressed  specifics with the                                                               
inmate deaths.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  revealed  that  she had  a  discussion  with  Mr.                                                               
Williams about the committee being  denied access to information,                                                               
tapes, and  documents relating  to the  DOC inmate  deaths, which                                                               
ultimately  started the  march down  the path  for a  review. She                                                               
said a tape from the  committee's March hearing will be submitted                                                               
to   Mr.  Williams   for  his   investigation.  She   noted  that                                                               
Representative LeDoux  will have  things that  she would  like to                                                               
address  with  Mr.   Williams  as  well.  She   stated  that  her                                                               
understanding is  Mr. Williams will  have access to all  of DOC's                                                               
information. She  asserted that  allowing Mr. Williams  access is                                                               
important. She  specified that Mr.  Williams will have  access to                                                               
surveillance   tapes,  medical   files,  documents   relating  to                                                               
prisoner  deaths,  homicides,  suicides,  and all  of  the  other                                                               
things being investigated.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:23:48 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked if DOC  or the Department  of Public                                                               
Safety investigates prisoner deaths.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILLIAMS  answered  that the  Department  of  Public  Safety                                                               
investigates deaths  inside state  facilities, including  DOC. He                                                               
noted that  his job is  to assess  the DOC death  review process,                                                               
how  long the  review process  has been  going on,  and what  the                                                               
policy is  around death investigations inside  DOC facilities. He                                                               
added that personnel investigations  will assess if DOC employees                                                               
are following  death review policy  and if somebody is  not doing                                                               
their job. He  asserted that three things should  be occurring: a                                                               
Department  of Public  Safety  investigation,  a law  enforcement                                                               
officer's investigation, and DOC's  own internal review. He added                                                               
that  if appropriate,  a personnel  investigation should  also be                                                               
going on at the same time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX  asked   who  should   conduct  personnel                                                               
investigations   and    should   the   DOC    conduct   personnel                                                               
investigations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  replied that  personnel investigations  are handled                                                               
differently  by departments.  He explained  that DOC  has someone                                                               
inside  that  does  most  of  the  personnel  investigations.  He                                                               
remarked that  he did not  want to make additional  comments, but                                                               
noted that DOC personnel investigations are being reviewed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:25:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI pointed  out  that  Mr. Williams  addressed                                                               
concerns  with  staffing issues  and  prisoner  death issues.  He                                                               
stated  that the  issues addressed  were important  and obviously                                                               
critical. He  commented that he was  a little unclear as  to what                                                               
Mr. Williams' exact focus is  for the DOC investigation. He asked                                                               
if  Mr.  Williams' investigation  will  focus  on one  particular                                                               
death, deaths in general, or on the overall corrections system.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered  that the investigation will  first look at                                                               
the last two  years of deaths, suicides, and  any other unnatural                                                               
deaths or  natural deaths. He  added that the  investigation will                                                               
review the  last two suicides,  including the Israel  Keyes case.                                                               
He noted  that Israel  Keyes is  a significant  case for  what it                                                               
means to the  department. He opined that the suicide  cases are a                                                               
major item and  the reason for the investigation,  but added that                                                               
there  are other  peripheral things  that are  becoming important                                                               
like  policy  and  review  issues.  He  stated  that  when  major                                                               
incidences occur, questions  should be asked as to  how, why, and                                                               
is  there something  deficient in  the way  DOC is  operating. He                                                               
summarized that  the review will  look at the death  incidents as                                                               
the  major  focus point,  but  realizing  that around  the  major                                                               
incidents  are  a  lot  of   other  things  that  include  policy                                                               
development,  training, staffing  issues,  and how  all of  those                                                               
things come into play.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:28:15 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   KELLER   pointed  out   that   a   lot  of   the                                                               
investigation's goals and purposes  are aligned with the Criminal                                                               
Justice  Commission's  efforts   for  the  legislature's  ongoing                                                               
interest  in looking  at  justice  reform. He  noted  that SB  91                                                               
addresses justice reform. He asked  Mr. Williams to keep track of                                                               
what the  Justice Commission is doing  and to make them  aware of                                                               
the investigation's  big-picture findings.  He remarked  that Mr.                                                               
Williams has a  different perspective and could  be very valuable                                                               
for the  Justice Commission in  bringing back  recommendations to                                                               
the legislature.  He stated that  Mr. Williams'  investigation is                                                               
important  to the  Judiciary Committees.  He  requested that  Mr.                                                               
Williams incorporate  within his report, as  the governor allows,                                                               
a   broader   picture   on  DOC's   culture   and   incarceration                                                               
effectiveness.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS acknowledged Representative Keller's request.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked Mr.  Williams to  provide contact                                                               
information and noted that he will  have a discussion with him at                                                               
the appropriate time.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE   said  the  Legislature   has  to  have   a  firm                                                               
understanding of what  it is going to take to  reform the current                                                               
system and that  is the reason why she told  the governor that it                                                               
is important to work together.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  added that  other  areas  have been  specifically                                                               
flagged for Mr.  Williams to look at during  his review: mentally                                                               
ill  people   that  end   up  in   prison,  offenders   that  are                                                               
incarcerated  under the  influence  due to  drug  and or  alcohol                                                               
addictions,  and  the  disproportionally  high  incarceration  of                                                               
Alaska Natives and African Americans.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She noted that  she has addressed inmates with  mental illness in                                                               
the past and specified that the review address the following:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   · DOC protocols related to mental health treatment.                                                                          
   · Corrections officer training for mentally ill inmates.                                                                     
   · Dispatcher training regarding mental health check calls as                                                                 
     with the Davon Mosley case and some others.                                                                                
   · Dispatcher recordings for a person that is suffering from a                                                                
     mental breakdown.                                                                                                          
   · Inmate mental health diagnosis.                                                                                            
   · Inmate medication identification.                                                                                          
   · Protocol for inmates receiving medication from a family                                                                    
     member.                                                                                                                    
   · Protocol for a mental health screening once an inmate is                                                                   
     inside.                                                                                                                    
   · Corrections officer training for a firm background in                                                                      
     understanding schizophrenia or bipolar disease and how it                                                                  
     manifests itself.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She said  detoxification is  another area with  a high  number of                                                               
those that are incarcerated in  Alaska suffering from alcohol and                                                               
or drug addiction.  She asked what the protocols  were for taking                                                               
care  of  an  individual's  health  aspects  during  a  substance                                                               
related  withdrawal when  a person  is under  the influence  of a                                                               
substance during an arrest.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She pointed out that minority  treatment has been flagged in both                                                               
the  area  of  the  state's  First  Nations  people  and  African                                                               
American  citizens.  She  said  she   is  hopeful  that  the  Pew                                                               
Charitable Trusts is going to look  at why the Alaska Natives and                                                               
African  American   numbers  are  disproportionately   high  when                                                               
related  to  the  populations  they  represent.  She  added  that                                                               
another  issue relates  to staff  training  on treatment,  racial                                                               
bias,  and  profiling of  Alaska  Natives  and African  Americans                                                               
behind bars.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:33:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR    MCGUIRE    welcomed    Representative    Matt    Claman,                                                               
Representative Bob  Lynn, and Representative  Neal Foster  to the                                                               
committee meeting.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She asked when the Judiciary Committee will receive a report.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS  replied that  he told the  governor that  an update                                                               
will be provided  in two to three months. He  added that one time                                                               
frame caveat  pertains to addressing something  that materializes                                                               
during  the review  process. He  said he  knows the  governor has                                                               
given him the  liberty to run things down that  are still hanging                                                               
out there and he did not want to leave something hanging.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  Mr.  Williams if  he  would be  comfortable                                                               
coming back before  the Joint Judiciary Committee  to present his                                                               
report.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS answered  yes. He noted that he had  spoken with the                                                               
governor and  he is committed  to making sure that  the Judiciary                                                               
Committee is  in on what  the review  finds. He asserted  that he                                                               
does not want to  submit his report until he gets  "to the end of                                                               
the  day." He  reiterated that  he welcomes  comments and  dialog                                                               
with committee members and their staff.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  thanked  Mr.  Williams  for  his  testimony.  She                                                               
thanked  the Davon  Mosley family  for attending  the meeting  as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:35:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL joined committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:37:18 PM                                                                                                                    
The meeting was adjourned at 1:37 p.m.                                                                                          

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